look, there is a really vital role for law enforcement, a really vital role for intelligence. there's a tough side to all this that we have to get right. but there's also a side, as i said, of challenging the narrative of violence and extremism that we have to get right to stop young minds being poisoned by this dreadful radical extremist narrative. and there's always more work to do on that. but in the end, how do we do it? we stand up for the values we believe in, for freedom, democracy, for the fact that we're proud to live in an open and tolerant society. >> reporter: and that's clearly a shared threat between the uk and here in the united states that the awareness of radic radicalizati radicalization, whether it's radicalization online or men to go elsewhere and be trained and then come back, a real threat. and a prior of both governments clearly. we know the prime minister headed to new york. he's at the united nations. he is focused right now on global development. actually, the governor, he's headed to ireland. so a little bit of a swap there. suzanne, michael? >> it w